Engage With Honor | Courageous Accountability for Everyday Leaders

In this episode of The Leadership Buzz, we explore Engage with Honor: Building a Culture of Courageous Accountability by retired Air Force Colonel and Vietnam POW Lee Ellis and discuss how these leadership lessons apply directly to business, teams, organizations, families, and everyday life.

This conversation is not just about military leadership. It is about resilience, workplace culture, dignity, accountability, and the repeated daily choices leaders make under pressure. We discuss why the real lesson from the Hanoi Hilton is not one dramatic moment of bravery. It is the daily grind of leadership: staying engaged, encouraging others, holding standards, and continuing forward when it would be easier to withdraw.

We also break down courageous accountability built on character, courage, and commitment, and why talent without character eventually damages trust and creates silence inside organizations.

A major theme in this episode is dignity and respect. We explore four traps that quietly destroy workplace culture: domination, withdrawal, gossip, and judging. If you want better communication, stronger accountability, healthier teams, and more trust in your organization, dignity is not a soft skill. It is foundational leadership.

Stick around for three coaching questions you can apply immediately, and share this episode with a leader who cares about doing things the right way.

Referenced books:

Engage with Honor – Lee Ellis
A POW’s Story: 2801 Days in Hanoi – Larry Guarino
The Passing of the Night – Robbie Risner

The Leadership Buzz is hosted by Lloyd “Buzz” Buzzell, an ICF-ACC executive coach, DISC practitioner, and retired U.S. Air Force officer with 37 years of leadership experience. Each episode focuses on one book, one idea, and one practical leadership concept to help you align your behavior with your values and lead with greater clarity, trust, and impact.

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Transcript

Welcome And Leadership Buzz Promise

TJ 0:00

Welcome to the Leadership Buzz with Lloyd Buzz Buzzell. ICF credentialed coach and retired Air Force officer. This podcast is for leaders who want to align behavior with values and grow in self-awareness. Each episode, one book, one idea, one story, and three coaching questions. Work hard. Tell the truth. Here's Buzz.

Buzz 0:26

Hey everybody, welcome back to the Leadership Buzz. I'm Buzz Buzzell. Before we get started, I just want to say thanks. The podcast has continued to grow, and I'm grateful for everyone listening, sharing episodes, and being part of this leadership community. This

Why Engage With Honor Matters

Buzz 0:39

week we're talking about Engage with Honor by retired Air Force Colonel and former Vietnam POW Lee Ellis. While his story comes from the military, don't tune out here. This lesson in this book absolutely transcends into business, organizations, teams, families, and everyday life. Because courage, accountability, communication, and honor matter everywhere. TJ, tell us more about the book.

TJ 1:02

Today's book is Engage with Honor: Building a Culture of Courageous Accountability by retired Air Force Colonel and former Vietnam POW Lee Ellis. After being shot down over Vietnam in 1967, Ellis spent 1,955 days in captivity at the Hanoi Hilton. His experiences shaped a powerful leadership message built on courage, accountability, communication, and honor. In this book, Ellis argues that great leadership is not driven by fear or intimidation, but by courageous accountability rooted in character, commitment, and caring concern for others. He reminds leaders that honor is not automatic. It is a daily struggle and a daily choice. Buzz, take us in.

Buzz 1:54

Hey, welcome back to the Leadership Buzz. This week we're talking about the book Engage with Honor by a retired Air Force Colonel and former Vietnam POW Lee Ellis. I want to say right up front. Do not tune out. This is not just a military leadership book. This transcends that into business and to life. Because sometimes people hear Vietnam POW stories or military leadership lessons immediately think, well, that doesn't really apply to me. Well, I don't think that's true at all. I think because courage, accountability, communication, trust, resilience, and dignity, these are all former, these are all human leadership principles. They apply in business, schools, hospitals, families, churches, across sports teams, and organizations everywhere. And honestly, one of the reasons I really respect Colonel Lee Ellis so much is his humility. I've had the opportunity to hear him speak more than once and actually meet him, and he's an amazing person. There's no ego in his message when he's in the room. Just steady leadership, honesty, and service.

POW Resilience As Daily Leadership

Buzz 3:00

Now Colonel Ellis spent 1,955 days as a POW in Vietnam at the Hanoi Hilton after being shot down in 1967 in his jet. Think about that number for a second. 1,955. And he wasn't alone. I've read several POW books over the years, men like General Robbie Reisner, Admiral James Stockdale, Admiral Jeremia Denton, and also Colonel Larry Garino, which I just thought his book was just amazing. It's called POW Story 2801 Day in Hanoi. 2801 days. That's hard for most of us to even comprehend. When I read the stories, one thing stands out over and over again. Resilience was not just one dramatic moment. It was a daily, repetitive, relentless waking up every day under pressure and continuing anyway. That's got kind of how a life is, right? It's encouraging teammates, communicating through walls, and showing up. It's holding those standards together and refusing to quit mentally. That really is leadership. And honestly, that applies directly to modern organizations. Most leadership today is not one huge heroic moment. It's the day-to-day grind, the repeated decisions, conversations, the pressure, the discouragement, the need for results, the fatigue, and then just the temptation to withdraw, that temptation to compromise. Leadership is often repetitive endurance. And I think sometimes we just misunderstand resilience. We think this resilience is just a very dramatic, heroic look. We think it looks like one big speech, an emotional breakthrough, or one defining moment. But most resilience is quiet. It's showing up every day, just like a mom does, just like a parent or a leader or supervisor doing the right thing always, having one difficult conversation, and then continuing to lead even when you're tired. Continuing to engage and encourage people when you personally feel discouraged. Continuing to hold those standards when it would be easier just to lower them. That's what these men did, and that's what leaders do today.

Character And Courage Drive Accountability

Buzz 5:15

Colonel Lee Ellis talks a lot about courageous accountability. Not accountability through fear, not this intimidation or humiliation, but accountability rooted in character, courage, and commitment. That's the framework throughout the book. Character, courage, and commitment. And it really starts with a foundation of character. He talks about establishing personal non-negotiables, things you stand for, and those lines that you won't cross. The standards that define who you are when pressure rises. Because pressure eventually reveals character. And I think that matters in business today more than ever. People are watching leaders closely. Not just what they say, but how they behave, treat people, respond under the stress, handle mistakes, and how they communicate, how they lead when things aren't going well. Character becomes that foundation. And I really believe the biggest mistake organizations make is focusing out only on performance while ignoring character. Because talent without character eventually becomes dangerous. You can have very, very smart people, they're driven, talented, but if the integrity piece is missing, trust eventually erodes. And once trust erodes, leadership becomes very, very hard. People start to stop talking honestly, and they teams tend to protect themselves while communication breaks down. Accountability starts turning into fear, and that's why this good character matters. It stabilizes leadership, and then courage courage sits on top of that. Colonel Ellis says courage is the backbone of leadership. I wrote that line down because I think it's true. Courage is what allows leaders to lean into that discomfort instead of avoiding it. The hard conversation to address the problems early, to tell the truth, and admit mistakes, confronting issues with dignity and respect and not avoiding them. Courage is difficult because clarity is difficult. Colonel Ellis talks about clarity bringing responsibility with it. And it's never easy. Clarity is never easy. It's easier to avoid, stay silent, and let the dysfunction continues. But leaders go first, that's another big theme in the book. Leaders set the example for accountability. And I think that absolutely transcends the military. Every organization, the emotional tone starts at the top. Or the bad stuff starts at the top. The fish stinks from the head down. Communication starts at the top, and trust starts at there. Accountability starts and culture starts at the very top. People watch what leaders constantly reward, and if it's not perfection and consistency, one thing I've learned over the years is that people can handle difficult circumstances better than leaders sometimes think. And what people struggle with most is just confusion. If it's silence or mixed messages or lack of honesty, or those unclear expectations, that's where clarity comes in. And that's why click clarity matters. We're not talking about being harsh or aggressive. We're talking about clarity. We're talking about clear communications, standards, and expectations so people understand what's going on. That's all they ask for. That's all what we ask for every day in our jobs and positions and families. And then courageously staying engaged with those people, not just disappearing when leadership becomes uncomfortable, because it will become uncomfortable. One of

Four Traps That Crush Dignity

Buzz 8:51

the most powerful parts of Colonel Lee Ellis' leadership message is his focus on dignity and respect. He talks about how deeply human beings react when they feel disrespected or devalued. And honestly, we see this everywhere today, right? People may forget exact words, but they rarely forget how leaders made them feel. Lee Ellis describes four traps that destroy dignity in organizations. And he describes this in some of his writing. The first is domination, that leadership through control, fear, micromanagement, or intimidation. We've all seen that. We've seen people who've dominated conversations, they make people afraid to speak, and there's these leaders who use authority instead of influence. And eventually that just destroys the whole trust piece. People stop taking that initiative and creativity drops. And you don't get that honest feedback when you're really looking for it. Organizations become quieter, and that's when it's not healthy. That second trap that Colonel Ellis talks about is withdrawal. And honestly, I think this one shows up a lot in workplaces today. Avoiding conflict, closing the door, disappearing emotionally, and just not engaging on difficult issues. Really just passive as aggressive silence. Lee Ellis says respect requires presence. That a strong leadership lesson, you have to stay in the room and be engaged. You have to be willing to have the conversation. I'd like to also just address what he talks about with gossip. Gossip destroys cultures quietly. We talked about this in another episode of the leadership buds buzz. It erodes trust, dreams, and it creates this insecurity amongst people. Healthy teams directly communicate. Because let's face it, if somebody's gossiping with you about somebody else, are they gossiping about you, other people, and is it healthy and is it needed? Healthy leaders confront issues honestly instead of talking around people. It just doesn't help. And then, of course, judging, looking down on others, dismissing people, treating someone like their second class because of title, background, status, mistakes, how they look. Lee Ellis shares a story about Eisenhower regretting the way he mocked another cadet when he was going through the academy. And that lesson stayed with him. Because dignity matters, and these ideas may sound like soft skills to some people, but they're really not soft at all. Because these things determine whether organizations become healthy or toxic. When people trust each other or protect themselves, whether that accountability becomes construction, constructive, or really corrosive. Now, one quote connected to these ideas is from Admiral James Stockdale. And the basic idea was this when people violate their own sense of honor, it corrodes them from the inside. That's powerful. Because leadership is not just external, it's internal. You have to live with your own decisions, your own behavior, and your own integrity. And that's why these Vietnam POW stories still matter decades later. Not because most of us will ever experience cat captivity or some those extreme situations that they experience, but because these men demonstrated something universal about leadership and about human leadership under pressure. Where

Encouragement Builds Honor Under Pressure

Buzz 12:20

character matters, courage, communication, and encouragement all matter. Encouraging others is a huge piece of that. Honor matters. And result resilience is built daily, not in one giant moment, but in repeated choices over time. That's true in business, leadership, marriage, parenting, and it's true in teams. And I honestly think one of the great, great lessons from these POW stories is the importance of encouraging one another. These men survived largely because they stayed connected. We were not meant to be by ourselves. They communicated through walls, literally through walls. They reinforced standards. They reminded each other who they were, and that matters today. They created their own language, their own tap code to be able to speak to each other, even though the Emmy discouraged it and knew to divide them as a team, they would have better influence over them. Leaders have to encourage people. Teammates have to support one another. And that's what he did in the Hanoi Hilton with his other teammates and other men that were in captivity. Organizations have to create cultures where dignity and accountability can exist together. And maybe that's the big takeaway from engaged with honor with engaged with honor. Honor is not automatic, it's daily. Leadership is not one speech, decision, dramatic moment. It's the repeated day-to-day choice to stay engaged, to communicate daily, treat people with dignity, confront problems honestly, and encourage teammates. And especially just keep going when things get hard. And a lead in a way that leaves people better instead of smaller. That really is leadership. And I think that message transcends into industry, office, every organization, and every walk of life. Honors practice in the small daily moments, long before the big moments ever arrived. Coach

Three Coaching Questions To Apply

TJ 14:22

Buzz, can you give us this week's three coaching questions for our listeners?

Buzz 14:28

For this week's three coaching questions, where in your leadership are you avoiding accountability because the conversation feels uncomfortable and how does that look? Next, how do the people around you experience your leadership under pressure? With fear or with trust and respect? How would they describe that? And finally, what example of courage, character, and accountability are you passing to the next generation through your daily actions? Describe three situations where that occurred.

TJ 14:59

Lee Ellis reminds us that accountability is not about control, fear, or intimidation. It is about courage, communication, and honoring the people we lead. After enduring more than five years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, Ellis learned that leadership is tested most under pressure, and that character, commitment, and accountability must work together. The book Engage with Honor challenges leaders to clarify expectations, confront problems honestly, and build cultures where trust and responsibility grow side by side. Most of all, it reminds us that honor is not a one-time decision. It is a daily struggle and a legacy we pass to the next generation. Buzz, take us home.

Rating Review And Reach Out

Buzz 15:55

And if you have a moment, leave a rating or review that helps other leaders discover the show. If these kinds of leadership questions resonate with you and you'd like to explore them more deeply, feel free to reach out to me. Coaching conversations often start exactly this way. Until next time, work hard, tell the truth.